tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post6336339492283615698..comments2024-03-29T08:31:54.659+00:00Comments on Penniless Parenting: My Tremendous Issues with Byron Katie's "The Work"Penniless Parentinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17671140279531925880noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-52388537446422314422024-01-22T10:40:02.223+00:002024-01-22T10:40:02.223+00:00I've done the Work a lot and found it sooooo h...I've done the Work a lot and found it sooooo helpful. It really saved me from some situations where I was inflicting so much pain on myself through my thoughts. I also went to see Byron Katie live and got a lot out of that. Still obviously... it's just a technique, not a magic button to solve every problem known to man, and certainly it can be twisted into something harmful. <br />In my Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-16683804396159172402023-07-07T17:44:24.210+00:002023-07-07T17:44:24.210+00:00What most people don't realize is that Byron K...What most people don't realize is that Byron Katie uses manipulative tactics from other Large Group Awareness Trainnings, and along with cult tactics and LGAT tactics, she uses Ericksonian hypnosis and Neuro Linguistic Programming in abusive ways to tear people down, steal from them, and rebuild them in her image. If you want to read some scary stuff from her, check out the now out-of-print Dave D. Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07998501014230722687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-46901424402364360572021-11-23T01:11:27.116+00:002021-11-23T01:11:27.116+00:00I have been looking for an example of her work wit...I have been looking for an example of her work with DV because I am really concerned about this application. I love the work for self-inquiry into limiting beliefs and want to get really clear about what the limit of this work is. <br />Jennahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15210626773148865061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-40273259069577468962021-11-05T01:57:35.742+00:002021-11-05T01:57:35.742+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Noah Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16945837384112053676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-51763876851260626202021-11-05T01:49:37.620+00:002021-11-05T01:49:37.620+00:00Love this ☝️☝️Love this ☝️☝️Noah Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16945837384112053676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-6393937633339059242021-11-05T01:47:31.348+00:002021-11-05T01:47:31.348+00:00I like this response ☝️☝️☝️I like this response ☝️☝️☝️Noah Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16945837384112053676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-15705808659432494352021-08-11T22:36:50.598+00:002021-08-11T22:36:50.598+00:00According to Katie's approach the answer can n...According to Katie's approach the answer can never be yes. If it's yes, according to her, then you need to find a new angle for it. But all of this depends on what the thought or situation is. If there's one thing I've felt recur in her book it's that it has the potential to actually destroy the idea of boundaries for someone. It's meant to be empowering, and I do know it Drasticohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05030314540964094326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-64632322594110403792021-08-11T09:20:33.832+00:002021-08-11T09:20:33.832+00:00I just finished her book and I'm trying to com...I just finished her book and I'm trying to come to terms with some things that have made me very uncomfortable. At the same time I both find value in some applications of her toolser and incredibly self-damaging applications in others.<br /><br />I am attensing ACA-meetings and I can wholeheartedly say they have done me a lot more good than this book. I have found that the book has its uses, Drasticohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05030314540964094326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-42197390675513384422021-05-25T09:46:06.914+00:002021-05-25T09:46:06.914+00:00Same, she does my head in!
Same, she does my head in!<br />zrumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15043312230410838677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-15360137336792834702021-05-21T06:50:43.543+00:002021-05-21T06:50:43.543+00:00I have a big question about 'the work' but...I have a big question about 'the work' but it's not the same one as yours. If you read her book, if you watch the videos, one thing you see is that Katie knows how to take care of herself and doesn't hesitate to do so when needed. And which is exactly what she encourages others to do. 'The Work' does not prescribe any particular action or avoidance of action. It's Davionicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18052952141988210681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-76339045526214640172021-05-06T18:41:14.030+00:002021-05-06T18:41:14.030+00:00Every time I hear Byron Katie speak, something in ...Every time I hear Byron Katie speak, something in me goes 'nope.' Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01689660972231327194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-27705292446720352302021-02-28T17:20:24.717+00:002021-02-28T17:20:24.717+00:00Can the answer to question 2 really ever be yes? B...Can the answer to question 2 really ever be yes? Byron Katie does say 'nothing is true, believe it or not'. I am interested because I spent many years in a relationship that to all around me was very unhealthy and I spent all my time 'doing the work'. I turned everything around and saw my own responsibility for everything that happened. 'I did this', 'everything he Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11390440880859337235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-26072553280877500212020-11-26T05:43:56.782+00:002020-11-26T05:43:56.782+00:00As an abuse survivor of 15 years with 13 protectio...As an abuse survivor of 15 years with 13 protection orders All I have to say is you know nothing of abuse dynamics.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16840347713996344744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-76716254793784985942020-11-04T09:38:08.039+00:002020-11-04T09:38:08.039+00:00Have you actually ever done the work yourself? In ...Have you actually ever done the work yourself? In my experience, witnessing The Work being done by others vs. actually going through the inquiry process with my own thoughts and situations, is a completely different experience. Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10600712951109457184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-86547501612523664862020-08-14T01:33:44.627+00:002020-08-14T01:33:44.627+00:00I completely agree with your assessment of "T...I completely agree with your assessment of "The Work" which is some of the most twisted new age bullshit I've come across. It gives healing work a bad name. I agree with @andyrauf above, it is spiritual bypassing to the highest degree. There is absolutely no need to engage with this kind of philosophy in order to heal. This "work" preys on the vulnerable who already Maya Phoenixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07903096869886440190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-28842483111602316562020-07-01T05:09:32.619+00:002020-07-01T05:09:32.619+00:00As a energy healer of 25 years I can say that &quo...As a energy healer of 25 years I can say that "The Work" is based on Spiritual Bypassing more than any other technique I've ever seen, and is dangerous. Getting a woman who is suffering from cancer, as Katie does, to start saying to herself "I don't have cancer" may numb out her anxiety, but it could also cause her physical demise as she stops seeking a cure. All she andyraufhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04488078543236901496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-31689704620054615002019-11-04T04:21:36.824+00:002019-11-04T04:21:36.824+00:00I get what the author is trying to say, but I don&...I get what the author is trying to say, but I don't agree with the extent of her methods. I've done successful self-evaluation without the need to say negative things to myself. Who wants more of that?! <br />I do understand exactly what you're saying, and thank you for saying it. Analysing your thoughts about problematic situations and then turning them around into more negative Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08045405357892570092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-5060330145528583992019-11-02T10:39:58.773+00:002019-11-02T10:39:58.773+00:00Sometimes people are unhappy and afraid for perfec...Sometimes people are unhappy and afraid for perfectly valid reasons and no amount of positive thinking can solve some problems totally outside of our control. Indeed simplistic solutions can compound the issue by adding guilt and a sense of failure to control the situation into the mix. Moreover, the more strongly we adhere to our own belief systems whether that be religious or philosophical the Swissgalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13498896289881963209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-38045803201692137002019-11-02T02:06:20.255+00:002019-11-02T02:06:20.255+00:00Skilled facilitators would not proceed as you desc...Skilled facilitators would not proceed as you described, but instead urge the person to question why she would stay. Katie says to meet your thoughts like little children, and if you have a thought like 'This hurts' then how do you respond? The best turn around to 'he's violent' might be 'I'm violent (to me)' if I stick around. Get safe first, then question the Pamela Holmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12049409301760242657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-26183617386594021802019-11-01T06:39:36.435+00:002019-11-01T06:39:36.435+00:00I hope people would use common sense. Dont use the...I hope people would use common sense. Dont use the work if it makes you crazyer.Lizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03719289597500154133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-59881195689904966352019-11-01T02:16:16.864+00:002019-11-01T02:16:16.864+00:00I would live to talk with you more about your feel...I would live to talk with you more about your feelings and the ideas you have about the work. When I inquire about my thoughts add beliefs and meditate on the questions my experience is illuminating. I would invite you to watch some of the videos on the website to see if seeing the process in action is useful for you. Or not. Either way is fine. Thank youILearnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02573347310713149144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-81246855745317924252019-11-01T02:07:37.485+00:002019-11-01T02:07:37.485+00:00Yes. Great response.Yes. Great response.Skipper's momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06266386845930815452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-62001540524782602542019-11-01T00:58:50.148+00:002019-11-01T00:58:50.148+00:00You are clinically correct in raising these questi...You are clinically correct in raising these questions, and this type of work may not be appropriate for someone in situations you describe, but you grossly misunderstand the premise which is to deal with one's *own* thinking about any given circumstance and then proceed from that point. If the answer to question #2 is still "Yes this (abuse) is true." Then The Work is done and otherJennifer Gateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13118525110316055400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-16003726238703098602019-10-31T22:35:22.641+00:002019-10-31T22:35:22.641+00:00I understand what you are saying here. I do have t...I understand what you are saying here. I do have to state I do not believe in victimization without self created patterns having some inherent part to play . Please understand this is NOT blaming the victim .. if someone was raped I would NEVER blame them , but an attempt to give them back their power and dignity is something the old victim abuse western therapy story never fully accomplished . Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861345635940174559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1300660817354328186.post-59644143844174623012019-10-31T21:36:17.476+00:002019-10-31T21:36:17.476+00:00Wow! I had never heard of the book, and your expla...Wow! I had never heard of the book, and your explanation is frightening. <br />I trust you're right. Miriam Adahan is very experienced in helping emotionally abused people. An article of hers I read about thirty years ago was a total game changer for me. I wonder what she says about the book.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.com